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		<title>By: lostitall</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13548</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Local backups are a great strategy and more than what most people do.  What happens if you have an incident at your home or office?  A fire, electrical storm, flood or theft could wipe-out your computer and your backup.With high speed Internet access online backups are cheap easy and offer some flexibility.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.free-online-backups.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Free-online-backups&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local backups are a great strategy and more than what most people do.  What happens if you have an incident at your home or office?  A fire, electrical storm, flood or theft could wipe-out your computer and your backup.With high speed Internet access online backups are cheap easy and offer some flexibility.<br />
<a href="http://www.free-online-backups.com/" rel="nofollow">Free-online-backups</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hite</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Hite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to burn DVDs until my storage requirements exceeded what a DVD could hold.  These days I have two 20GB external drives that I bought for around $25 each on eBay.  They fit easily into a small safety deposit box at the bank.  Once a week I swap them (the bank&#039;s on the way to the local movie theater and I like to celebrate my being my own boss but giving myself a couple hours off each Friday afternoon to take in a movie).

I don&#039;t compress or encrypt my data when doing a backup - I want it to be as easy to access in my backup storage device as my workstation&#039;s HD.  I use FolderMatch for copying the files (www.FileMatch.com) which does a fine job.  

My question to those storing their backups &quot;in the cloud&quot; is &quot;How fast can you retrieve your data?&quot;  One person told me that while Carbonite seems like a great solution, if you have a large amount of data you need to retrieve it can take a very long time to get it as the downstream speed is fairly limited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to burn DVDs until my storage requirements exceeded what a DVD could hold.  These days I have two 20GB external drives that I bought for around $25 each on eBay.  They fit easily into a small safety deposit box at the bank.  Once a week I swap them (the bank&#8217;s on the way to the local movie theater and I like to celebrate my being my own boss but giving myself a couple hours off each Friday afternoon to take in a movie).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t compress or encrypt my data when doing a backup &#8211; I want it to be as easy to access in my backup storage device as my workstation&#8217;s HD.  I use FolderMatch for copying the files (www.FileMatch.com) which does a fine job.  </p>
<p>My question to those storing their backups &#8220;in the cloud&#8221; is &#8220;How fast can you retrieve your data?&#8221;  One person told me that while Carbonite seems like a great solution, if you have a large amount of data you need to retrieve it can take a very long time to get it as the downstream speed is fairly limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Brice</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Brice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;What&#039;s your solution for this point you mentioned

Copy a snapshot onto a DVD once a week.

Having the file/folder in source control also works.

It also amazes me that there are developers not using source control. But that is a topic for another post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;What&#8217;s your solution for this point you mentioned</p>
<p>Copy a snapshot onto a DVD once a week.</p>
<p>Having the file/folder in source control also works.</p>
<p>It also amazes me that there are developers not using source control. But that is a topic for another post.</p>
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		<title>By: Vasudev Ram</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vasudev Ram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good subject for a post, Andy.

It&#039;s amazing, the number of software developers who don&#039;t take backups at all, let alone use the many good backup techniques mentioned in your post and the comments.

A related point, also surprisingly common, is how often developers lose work (i.e. code that&#039;s already done and is working, or mostly working), in their haste to make changes, or to fix some bugs - I&#039;m talking about when they end up deleting fragments of working code or introducing new bugs into it through their edits; they don&#039;t bother to take local backups, or better, use a source control tool like CVS, SVN, git, etc., to make a snapshot of the files to be modified, before modifying them, so that changes can be rolled back if needed.

Andy: What&#039;s your solution for this point you mentioned:

&gt;-a corruption or deletion that gets synch’ed to your backup drives (e.g. you delete a folder and then decide a week later you need it back)

Boofus: Those Tao / Zen Master stories are good :) See some of the ones about UNIX, here, in Eric Raymond&#039;s book The Art of UNIX Programming:

http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/unix_koans.html

- Vasudev]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good subject for a post, Andy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing, the number of software developers who don&#8217;t take backups at all, let alone use the many good backup techniques mentioned in your post and the comments.</p>
<p>A related point, also surprisingly common, is how often developers lose work (i.e. code that&#8217;s already done and is working, or mostly working), in their haste to make changes, or to fix some bugs &#8211; I&#8217;m talking about when they end up deleting fragments of working code or introducing new bugs into it through their edits; they don&#8217;t bother to take local backups, or better, use a source control tool like CVS, SVN, git, etc., to make a snapshot of the files to be modified, before modifying them, so that changes can be rolled back if needed.</p>
<p>Andy: What&#8217;s your solution for this point you mentioned:</p>
<p>&gt;-a corruption or deletion that gets synch’ed to your backup drives (e.g. you delete a folder and then decide a week later you need it back)</p>
<p>Boofus: Those Tao / Zen Master stories are good :) See some of the ones about UNIX, here, in Eric Raymond&#8217;s book The Art of UNIX Programming:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/unix_koans.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/unix_koans.html</a></p>
<p>- Vasudev</p>
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		<title>By: Boofus McGoofus</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boofus McGoofus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From http://www.taobackup.com (which is all worth a read):



The novice asked the backup master: &quot;Master, now that my backups have good coverage, are taken frequently, are archived, and are distributed to the four corners of the earth, I have supreme confidence in them. Have I achieved enlightenment? Surely now I comprehend the Tao Of Backup?&quot;
	

The master paused for one minute, then suddenly produced an axe and smashed the novice&#039;s disk drive to pieces. Calmly he said: &quot;To believe in one&#039;s backups is one thing. To have to use them is another.&quot;

The novice looked very worried. 


You don&#039;t have a backup until you&#039;ve tested it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.taobackup.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.taobackup.com</a> (which is all worth a read):</p>
<p>The novice asked the backup master: &#8220;Master, now that my backups have good coverage, are taken frequently, are archived, and are distributed to the four corners of the earth, I have supreme confidence in them. Have I achieved enlightenment? Surely now I comprehend the Tao Of Backup?&#8221;</p>
<p>The master paused for one minute, then suddenly produced an axe and smashed the novice&#8217;s disk drive to pieces. Calmly he said: &#8220;To believe in one&#8217;s backups is one thing. To have to use them is another.&#8221;</p>
<p>The novice looked very worried. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have a backup until you&#8217;ve tested it.</p>
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		<title>By: SF</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13323</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great that you brought it to peoples attention. Unfortunately, so many lay people just ignore this ... and end up losing family photos, etc.

My development, personal, family and servers get backed up (using SyncBackSE versioning) to a backup drive (on the server). It is all in native data formats. 

The backup drive gets mirrored every night to a NAS running in my workshop/shed about 300ft away on the property. Syncback has email on backup error so I know if it detected something wrong.

I test recover from server backups and NAS once or twice a month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great that you brought it to peoples attention. Unfortunately, so many lay people just ignore this &#8230; and end up losing family photos, etc.</p>
<p>My development, personal, family and servers get backed up (using SyncBackSE versioning) to a backup drive (on the server). It is all in native data formats. </p>
<p>The backup drive gets mirrored every night to a NAS running in my workshop/shed about 300ft away on the property. Syncback has email on backup error so I know if it detected something wrong.</p>
<p>I test recover from server backups and NAS once or twice a month.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadya</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13318</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nadya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who use Windows may want to try CloudBerry Backup. It is powered by Amazon S3 reliable and cost efficient storage. What safer place to keep your files than Amazon&#039;s servers? You can download the product at http://cloudberrydrive.com 

Nadya,
CloudBerry Lab team]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who use Windows may want to try CloudBerry Backup. It is powered by Amazon S3 reliable and cost efficient storage. What safer place to keep your files than Amazon&#8217;s servers? You can download the product at <a href="http://cloudberrydrive.com" rel="nofollow">http://cloudberrydrive.com</a> </p>
<p>Nadya,<br />
CloudBerry Lab team</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kane</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13316</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Kane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgot the fourth.  On a VPS so I have an online backup I control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot the fourth.  On a VPS so I have an online backup I control.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Kane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have four sets.  Local to a couple of USB HDs I swap in and out, Amazon S3 for the server, dev machine and stuido machine.  Off site via another two USB HD&#039;s for critical stuff I can&#039;t afford to lose (source, doc&#039;s et al).  This was driven home to me this year when the street my sister lived in burned - every home (along with several thousand others in my region).  I think I&#039;ve become paranoid about backups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have four sets.  Local to a couple of USB HDs I swap in and out, Amazon S3 for the server, dev machine and stuido machine.  Off site via another two USB HD&#8217;s for critical stuff I can&#8217;t afford to lose (source, doc&#8217;s et al).  This was driven home to me this year when the street my sister lived in burned &#8211; every home (along with several thousand others in my region).  I think I&#8217;ve become paranoid about backups.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Brooks</title>
		<link>http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/10/28/how-good-are-your-backups/#comment-13314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Brooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brings to mind Andy Grove&#039;s comment about only the paranoid surviving. A hard drive failure a couple years ago brought the lesson home. We&#039;ve always kept weekly backups, in various media over the years, swapped through a safety deposit box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brings to mind Andy Grove&#8217;s comment about only the paranoid surviving. A hard drive failure a couple years ago brought the lesson home. We&#8217;ve always kept weekly backups, in various media over the years, swapped through a safety deposit box.</p>
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